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Train Your Dog Like a Pro

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Awful program
Posted: August 18, 2014 by Leslie Ufford
Program: Train Your Dog Like a Pro (5 comments)
The program "Train you dog like a pro" is basically an infomercial for an abusive collar based on old, bad science about how dogs learn. Please don't perpetuate punishment based training
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PS -- Strongly object to Don Sullivan's dog training special
Posted: May 13, 2014 by Sue Howe
Program: Train Your Dog Like a Pro (5 comments)
My previous post was too long, and this stuff wasn't included -- 5 DON SULLIVAN [and the company that sells his stuff, Thane] Complaints and reviews from real people http://www.pissedconsumer.com/company/don-sullivan.html * Anybody tried Don Sullivan's The Perfect Dog system? Saw an infomercial for this dog training video and equipment: .... Have you purchased this? What was your experience with it? Would you recommend? Best Answer -- Asker's Choice Agility Man answered 6 years ago -- This is a great example of someone being very savvy in how they use the internet. Do a quick search of "Don Sullivan" and "Perfect Dog" and you find a gazillion forums with a question and then a couple of responses that are all positive (without explaining the technique). Yet strangely, the responses seem to read the same..."he's a down to earth guy" or "true to the promises in the infomercial" or "saw results within weeks" or "worked better than anything I've ever tried". 1. Don Sullivan claims that treats don't work. Yeah, if you're luring. But decades of operant conditioning research (with humans and species such as dolphins, horses, cats, orcas and certainly dogs) has proven this to be wrong. The problem is you've got a bunch of old time, out-of-touch with new research, people who think that treats are bribes. They aren't. What you're doing is shaping the association that a dog has with a particular event. 2. He doesn't use a marker (for dogs that would be a clicker, for dolphins or orcas, a whistle) Research has shown that this is the simplest, fastest way to train. All serious animal trainers at places like SeaWorld or in Hollywood animal trainers rely on them. 3. His technique is build around a modified plastic prong collar. Yes, it will change behavior but only a very superficial way. For instance, let's suppose your dog gets frantic when strangers approach the door and begins to bark rapidly. You use the Sullivan collar and the barking stops. Problem solved? Not quite. The dog likely transfers the behavior to something. For instance, it would probably become more likely to bite. The point I'm making is that pain and adversive behavior doesn't solve WHY the dog does what it does, it just shifts the behavior. So if your dog is threatened by a neighboring dog and begins barking whenever that dog appears so you "correct" than your dog doesn't suddenly feel that the other dog isn't a threat, it just doesn't bark. Instead, it may look for an opportunity to attack. Or it may feel that you can't be trusted. Or the dog may be more likely to flee. For decades, old school trainers have used choke collars and prong collars to train dogs. Of course they can produce behavior change. But what we've conclusively found is that it doesn't change WHY the dog was behaving that way, the behavior is transferred to something else, it often produces aggressive dogs or aggressive behavior and it doesn't improve bonds with the handler or owner. But other than that, it's effective. I'll give you one last thought: I compete in agility. At the highest levels, absolutely none of the handlers I know of would treat their dogs this way. And some of them run rescues (so it's not that they have some rare unique dog different from the rest of us). Some of those agility folks have dogs that do tricks shows or TV ads for dog products--again, they'd never think of using such behavior. Save your money. It's much like BarkBusters in that it's all promo. Far better to invest in something like Patricia McConnell's books (the Other End of the Leash is a good one) or Leslie McDevitt's "Control Unleashed" (if you've got a reactive dog) or visit Shirley Chong's website. https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080912153353AAtJ4yf * Don Sullivan's Secrets to Training the Perfect Dog (www.theperfectdog.com) Complaints & Reviews - Fraud About 14 comments, including the terms "Rip Off" and "Fraud" http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/don-sullivan039s-secrets-to-training-the-perfect-dog-wwwtheperfectdogcom-c158971.html * Well, thanks for listening.
Strongly object to PGS showing Don Sullivan's dog training special
Posted: May 13, 2014 by Sue Howe
Program: Train Your Dog Like a Pro (5 comments)
Hi. I like a lot of PBS shows, and when we watch anything, it's usually on PBS. * I strongly object to PBS showing the Don Sullivan Wake Up and Smell the Poop dog training show. I did some checking, and read significant numbers of reviews that dealing with his company is a pain, with underhanded dealings by the company, that the materials are of poor quality and break quickly, that the program and collar don't work, and that the collar will cause pain in the dogs. The collar he recommends and sells has sharp plastic points that when you YANK (and yes, I saw Sullivan YANK on the collars to get several dogs to go down), the points dig into the dog's neck. And no, that's not how dog mothers or other dogs do it -- when they do it, it doesn't hurt. I don't know if you picked this up, but the small tan dog he "trained" and then just stayed up on the deck and didn't go out onto the lawn even with temptations, but that dog was suffering inside. Don Sullivan says he doesn't dominate the dogs, but that after he "trains" them with pulling and yanking on the collar, he shows that he still cares about the animal by showing affection, and that the dogs aren't harmed. I disagree. The Humane Society recommends that people do NOT use collars like he uses and sells. They recommend positive training methods rather than aversive collars Here's some of my research-- Humane Society -- ...Aversive collars Some trainers use aversive collars to train "difficult" dogs with correction or punishment. These collars rely on physical discomfort or even pain to teach the dog what not to do. They suppress the unwanted behavior, but they don't teach him what the proper behavior is. At best, they are unpleasant for your dog, and at worst, they may cause your dog to act aggressively and even bite you. Positive training methods should always be your first choice. Learn the techniques » Choke chain As the name implies, this collar is made of metal links and is designed to control your dog by tightening around your dog's neck. It is supposed to sit high up on the dog's neck just behind her ears. Unlike the martingale collar, there is no way to control how much the choke chain tightens, so it's possible to choke or strangle your dog. It can also cause other problems, too, such as injuries to the trachea and esophagus, injuries to blood vessels in the eyes, neck sprains, nerve damage, fainting, transient paralysis, and even death. It is best for your dog if you avoid using a choke chain. More humane collars and good obedience training should make it unnecessary to resort to this aversive collar. If you insist on using one, consult an experienced trainer to learn how to properly size, fit, and use it. And never leave a choke chain on your dog as her regular collar; the chain could catch on something and choke your dog! Prong or pinch The prong or pinch collar is similar in style to the martingale. The control loop that the leash is attached to is made of chain. The loop that fits around your dog's neck is made of a series of fang-shaped metal links, or prongs, with blunted points. When the control loop is pulled, the prongs pinch the loose skin of your dog's neck. Like the choke chain, the prong collar must be properly fitted. The size of the prong links should be appropriate for the size of your dog. The collar should sit high up on your dog's neck, just behind his ears. The fit should be snug, so the prong links can't shift to the front of your dog's neck where they might pinch your dog's trachea. More humane collars and good obedience training should make it unnecessary to resort to this aversive collar. If you insist on using one, consult an experienced trainer to learn how to properly size, fit, and use it.... http://www.humanesociety.org/animals/dogs/tips/collars.html * Here are some of the bad reviews -- Don Sullivan Perfect Dog Fast Results Pet Training Package, Large -- Go to PetCo to get dog training, February 20, 2014 This review is from: Don Sullivan Perfect Dog Fast Results Pet Training Package, Large (Misc.) You can go register for personal training of your dog at PetCo for the price of this package. The collar is especially troublesome because when you take your dog for a walk, if he pulls the least bit the collar will tighten around his/her neck and choke them to the point of causing them to dry heave/throw up. The nylon rope will only last for a couple of weeks before your pet chews thru it. I'd return it if I could. I don't recommend it. Get a dog collar that is comfortable for your dog, not one that will kill them. NOT FOR ME OR MY DOG!, January 2, 2014 This review is from: Don Sullivan Perfect Dog Fast Results Pet Training Package, Small (Misc.) I was enthusiastic when I ordered this product after seeing it on TV. First of all, I should have know with all of the double meaning comments that something was up. All I needed to do was to read the vague booklet and more importantly look at the inside of the collar (which is all zig zagged plastic points reminding me of medieval times) that is intended to inflict pain on the animal. Unbelievable. If you have a hopeless dog that is ready for the pound, etc. it probably would be your last resort. If instead you have a loveable dog (like mine) that has a couple of annoying problems (separation anxiety and getting excited and happy when people arrive at the house) this type of obedience training is just plain old cruelty. Not for me or my dog. Thane customer service totally s*cks!, January 29, 2014 By This review is from: Don Sullivan Perfect Dog Fast Results Pet Training Package, Large (Misc.) Nice I love the collar and training guide. When I first ordered this through the company it was nothing less than disappointment. Took over a moth to get and when it came it came without the video and collar. I had to pay return shipping and fill out a form that it wasn't on the package. Plus I ordered the training cards and they sent two but order said one. Totally messed up my order and expected me to pay for returned shipping. Would never advice anyone to use that company. Ordered from Amazon and got my total order in two days with cheap shipping. Always use Amazon! The product I give a 5 the service I give a 0. http://www.amazon.com/Don-Sullivan-Perfect-Results-Training/product-reviews/B00BSG3U20/ref=cm_cr_dp_qt_hist_one?ie=UTF8&filterBy=addOneStar&showViewpoints=0 * Link to 18 1-star reviews of Don Sullivan Perfect Dog Command Collar with Extra Links and DVD, Large(yes, 18 out of 92 reviews, and there are also 10 2-star reviews that's 1/3 of the reviews) -- http://www.amazon.com/Don-Sullivan-Perfect-Command-Collar/product-reviews/B00B89AZSE/ref=cm_cr_dp_qt_hist_one?ie=UTF8&filterBy=addOneStar&showViewpoints=0 * About book, Wake Up and Smell the Poop -- Not what I was expecting, April 11, 2014 This review is from: Wake Up and Smell the Poop!: The myths, deceptions, lies and obsessions that keep you from having the Perfect Dog (Paperback) I was expecting some tips on how to train my dog. He is an excellent dog trainer but this book is basically an autobiography. 1.0 out of 5 stars waste of money, March 24, 2014 This review is from: Wake Up and Smell the Poop!: The myths, deceptions, lies and obsessions that keep you from having the Perfect Dog (Paperback) tall tales, long-winded. This has nothing to do with his training program, which is pretty good. The less said the better (the review required 4 more words, hence these 4) * 3-star review-- Yes and no, October 20, 2013 This review is from: Don Sullivan Perfect Dog Max Results Pet Training Package, Large (Misc.) First let me explain the things I like about this product. The set is very well organized and provides just about everything you need to provide basic training according to Don Sullivan's method, with the possible exception of a muzzle. It includes 3 lengths of training lines as well as leather gloves, which are pretty much essential if you let your dog drag the lines on the ground like Sullivan indicates. You also get a condensed set of instructions on a ring that you can take into the field with you, plus a set of 2 training DVDs. The DVDs have menus and sub-menus so you can go directly to the segment that you want to watch. The DVDs provide ample demonstration and explanation for each training activity to help you do the training exercises as Sullivan indicates. You also get Sullivan's own design training collar. There are also things I wasn't too thrilled about with this set, though. I didn't realize this when I selected the product, but the "training" collar is basically a spiky plastic collar (spikes on the inside, against the dog's neck) which is a modified version of a prong collar that sticks prongs in the dog's neck for correction purposes. The collar easily comes apart for adding or taking out links, and the video shows you exactly how to do this, so you can get a pretty precise fit on it, and it could conceivably be used again for a different sized dog. I'm not convinced that this type of collar is necessary, though, since I've seen some very well trained dogs that were never handled this way. While I do agree that a lot of the usual training tools people are sold are kind of useless, and I even agree that the treat-based training system I was taught to use has its down sides, in order to get Sullivan's results with this set you have to be willing to use it the same way he does, and that means correcting your dog frequently with short jerks on the lead, which will cause a bit of discomfort. This is certainly not going to injure your dog, and Sullivan emphasizes that during training you want to build your close relationship with your dog. It just makes me uncomfortable because I'm not convinced it's necessary to inflict pain or discomfort to en
CPT12 Response:
Thank you for your email, links and product reviews concerning Don Sullivan’s Dog training package and training technique.
I will forward your comments to our Membership Department for review.
We appreciate your feedback and concern. Comments from viewers like you help guide future programming decisions.
Sincerely,
Joan
CPT12 Staff 
Don Sullivan
Posted: April 27, 2014 by Name Withheld
Program: Train Your Dog Like a Pro (5 comments)
I worked with Don for several weeks and saw him transform dogs with extremely bad behavior in a very short amount of time. He was gentle and kind, some dogs with stronger wills needed more correction than other dogs but for the most part the training lasted 15 minutes and the dogs bad habits were gone. Some of these dogs were so difficult that their owners were considering giving the dog up, afterwards they couldn't believe the difference!! The collar is not a typical metal prong collar, which I also do not care for but more of a hard plastic pyramid shape. I have used it one several dogs I have rescued over the years who have had no training and came from awful circumstances. All my dogs hike off leash, come when called, sit, stay and are able to go everywhere with me. I am sure the "Trainers" who are up in arms about his training methods are also against remote collars as well and anyone with hunting dogs uses them. I have worked with trainers who treat train and use all different sorts of methods but this is most effective training and is perfect for the person who has tried everything and nothing has worked. My dog is famous in my town because he is so incredibly well behaved, everyone knows him by name, he is the perfect dog!!
CPT12 Response:
Thank you for your email and testimonial.  We appreciate reading about your experience using Mr. Sullivan’s methods.
All the Best,
Joan
CPT12 Staff
Train Your Dog Like a Pro
Posted: March 2, 2014 by Name Withheld
Program: Train Your Dog Like a Pro (5 comments)
This show is horrible!!!!!!!!! It is based on abusive, corrective dog training techniques from the dark ages (think 1950s). Corrections and physical abuse!!!! It is inhumane -- and based purely on getting quick results -- antiquated concepts like "respect", "bad behaviors", etc. Please, please, YANK THIS show. There are plenty of educated, positive, reinforcement based trainers out there that deserve shows. More importantly, our canine companions DESERVE this type of training rather than physical and mental abuse by uneducated, unenlightened trainers like this guy.
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Feedback  from viewers like you help guide future programming decisions.
Thanks for letting us know how you feel.
Sincerely,
Joan
CPT12 Staff
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